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I would like to ask if anyone knows if there are any rules or regulations regarding feeding the needy in Gombei.
As we all know there are a lot of people there who beg for money (only God knows if they really need it or not) but I still feel like feeding them.

I dont just want to give money because I know some of them are part of this gang that takes the money of them in the end of the day, however, I dont mind buying some pot noodles and a green tea and give that to them.

Now I dont know how it goes here in China regarding this but I like the Idea of a "soupkitchen" that would just feed those who need it. Doesn't have to be expensive, you can cook with a budget.
I was thinking of cooking a lot of food (noodles with some chicken and veggies) to cater to the hungry, even if they aren't really homeless, asking people for money all day is hard work.

I still need to pray if it will be a every week thing or once or twice.

Please let me know your thoughts about this matter.

greetings and blessings,
klaas

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That's a nice idea. However you might want to ask your local friends how this is arranged in China. I know there are many official and unofficial charity associations set up by both foreigners and Chinese. If you just start walking around and offering food it MIGHT attract some negative attention. I remember you mentioned you were Christian. Perhaps contacting local Christian association and seeking advice from them would give you more insight on how to do this. Or a lawyer of some sort in order to get a proper understanding on local laws about such set-up.

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Thank you so much for you info, I will defo ask around.

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sounds nice, i guess its a little hard to make it as u wish, as i know most of them are just eager for money. good luck.

Hello everyone i was born in zhuhai, right now i am working in gz sometimes come back home visit friends and parents, nice to know everything new here.......

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I agree with the money part, however, I been praying about it and the Lord revealed to me that I have to prepare the food at home, like buy the noodles, bell pepper, onions, boneless chicken, some white mushrooms. cook it all in a big pan and all the chicken, mix it and put it in those take away boxes, than I can just give it to them (ooow note to self: one banana for the monkey) I'm still praying about it all but God will show me how to do it. If you guys want, I can update you guys with the dates so if people want to help they can give me a PM or message or however you call it. By the way just because I AM a Christian doesn't make this a religious event, I just want to feed the hungry with noodles, water and "bread"

Greetings and Blessings
Klaas

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I can probably get the take-away trays. I walked past a store and saw them, and i want to help, so i will try to get them. Let me know if you are still doing this. Thanks!

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They are professional beggars and they earn more than the average Chinese.
Begging is full blown Chinese enterprise and it's just tax for soft hearted.

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@nevermore

actually it is a bit more complicated than that... should you give money to beggars? yes or no? not a simple answer to that one I am afraid

on the one hand no because if you give money you support the business and they will keep on doing it

on the other hand yes, because if you don't give money the beggars get treated even worse than they are already being treated.. many of the beggars are not doing this for themselves , they are part of criminal gangs that recruit beggars from the poorer parts of china , in zhuhai many are from Anhui ...

so if you don't give money to a beggar and he doesn't make his "daily quota" the bosses are going to get upset and probably treat the beggar even worse than they are already being treated

why care about the individual beggar? usually they are victims themselves, not doing this begging thing because they want to but they are forced into the gang and then forced to beg .. so if nobody gives them money their life will only get worse ...

just saying , it is not just a simple "tax for the soft hearted"

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now you know i have to make a comment here. my exact comment is ... being processed. i'm finding it very hard to believe what i am reading on this thread. just .... hang on. this is ........... truly too much to take in all at once. but when i do give my comment ......... look out. and obviously you know absolutely nothing about begging in china, and especially zhuhai! buy a damn dog and feel better!

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well, i was thinking ... you said 'needy' right? i am needy. i was hungry, but when you told me what you were cooking ... i'll take a miss on that.

besides, you can't miss me. i have a huge tin cup,, like a big folgers tin. i'm short, have a long beard and i hang out at the plaza every single day. i try to sell gold that looks like straw, but nobody buys from me. i'm hungry and needy, so can you at least cook me something decent. if you do, i can spin some straw into gold for you and we can go and get some good bargains downstairs in the plaza where i know some other needy guys.

no offence chico, but get a life. and if you want to know how to help the needy .................. you don't need to ask.

i have a lot of straw here, so you can at least give them some bedding from me.

did you ever wonder where they slept at night? surely you have been in town in the wee hours of the morning!

buy a fish and feed it.

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Really? They earn a lot? I ask because I NEVER see anyone giving them any money at all.

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Yes but just look at how fat some of the beggers in goubei is just so ironic.

Lets add those fake monks as well. Funny story happen last weekend when we were existing hotpot restaurant and my friends were drunk. A monk approach him and ask for donation for his blessing. My friend told him if he knows "Iron head kungfu" he will gave him 100 yuan. The monk was very happy and said he been practicing for 20 years. My friends then said "cool, don't mind if I smash beer bottle on your forehead". The monk quick ran off faster than Caro Lewis.

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People baffle me.
My profile picture states little words but It's messages is so true
right rumpel?

Rumpelstiltskin's picture
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Don't be baffled. Listen.

Besides ... I'm from Liechtenstein ... what can I say?

Rump

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Holy batman of spam!

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Since some spammer from Costa Rica has put a breadth onto this Zhuhai thread....

I'm wondering how things are working out with Klaas' 3 months effort in feeding Gongbei's "Needy" & whether or not any of them are visibly gaining weight.

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I'm not a bad chap Klaas, but .... well ... I think you wanted to do something nice for someone. But 'Feed the Needy' would not how I personally would have gone about it.

In fact I get around pretty often to the normal busy places in Zhuhai. I was in town the other day and I won't tell you which long bearded man with the cup and grey hair that never stops putting it in your face (maybe you know a few) and I said No, mayo, bla, bla, bla.

He followed me for over 50 meters and even smacked me with his tin cup a few times. I tried to be nice because the Chinese do reflect their opinions on our reactions to others. I, of course would not give him one fen.

I went down the street and tried to calm down and think he must be hurting or else the gangs are hurting him to make more.

I'm sorry. I came to one final conclusion and I have not been drinking. Some guy one a couple forum subjects mentioned a baseball bat. Now I'm not violent or aggressive. But guess what?

I'm getting a nice baseball bat this afternoon, and I would prefer to pay for the highest priced one I can find.

Just call it for looks, or cars, or beggars, or pedestrians ............. or my walking stick. I have a bum knee.

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I don't find this or any other forum which reference a baseball bat even remotely humorous.

Cheers. Dave B

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I'm very sorry DaveB, you must not have read what I said! There is not one single iota of humor in it. I bought the bat from Juscos. Pretty nice, aluminum, light weight, and doesn't even look imposing. I have a bum knee after all and use it as a walking stick.

So the only comment I have and I am serious, contact me if you have a problem. I like helping expats.

And the Needy .............. okay you win!

Don't you dare even attempt to dis the baseball bat.

Fact and no humor involved. It's my new walking cane.

HONEST

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Then find some humor or go buy a baseball bat and see how that makes you feel.

And I do find it humorous like everyone else. Haahahhahhahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Well, we sure know to stay away from a foreigner with a big shiny bat.

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Honestly do local Chinese even know what baseball bat is? You must well carry a big hammer (which is completely legal)

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just like atlarge, I would like to know how the "Feed the needy" efforts are going, if it was well received.

Rumpelstiltskin's picture
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who said shiny? and they can help many people. don't like it, don't buy one and don't comment on it.

Forgive my frankness.

Rump